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I think you are missing my broader thought, which is that material support for Ukraine was the Rubicon that the US crossed, and an admirable one at that. Billions of dollars that can be used to kill Russians -- whether military or civilian -- is the point, not the identity of the tools used to do it. Do you think we would or should care whether Russians not only fund organizations attacking US citizens, but also actually made the weapons doing it?

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Point taken. These kinds of dances, though, do seem very important for the diplomacy of the war. The Russian view at the moment is that the US is attacking Russian soil and, any way you cut it, there will be diplomatic ramifications for that. But I agree that the Rubicon was crossed in 2022 if not 2014-15.

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We are dealing with Putin's views, not Russian views. Putin is not not dancing with us, has no interest in diplomacy, and has an expansive view of what Russian soil is, including Ukraine, other SSRs, Poland, and perhaps even Alaska. The Russians have been at war with us for some time; it's only ourselves who have been deluded as to his aims. Let there be diplomatic ramifications.

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